Prince Charles convert of Islam?

I was reading an article about Prince Charles visit to Turkey and I was struck by his timeless fascination with Islam.  The article can be found here.

After reading this article I decided to search about Prince Charles interest in Islam and found an interesting article which I don’t know to make of.  Has to be absurd conspiracy surely.  Anyway,  you can make up your own mind.  Sure is an extreme article…

Prince Charles: The Constantine of Islam?


By Ali Sina 

2005/11/03

When Constantine began his rule, only 5% of the Western Roman Empire was Christian. He came to power at the age of 24 and did not baptize until he was in his fifties and close to his death. Technically, he did not force his subjects to convert, but he gradually introduced Christianity and changed the laws making it harder to practice paganism. 

He increased taxes for the pagans while exonerated the churches and the Christians priests from paying them. He granted lands and built many Christian churches. He gave Christian bishops the authority of judges – against whom there would be no appeal. He imposed moral codes by creating severe penalties against adultery, concubinage and prostitution. For a variety of other crimes, people were to have their eyes gouged out or their legs maimed. In keeping with Paul’s instructions that slaves should “obey their masters with fear and trembling” [Eph 6:5], he passed a law allowing masters to beat their slaves to death. He allowed infants born to slaves to be sold and allowed slaves who were caught seeking refuge among “barbarians” to have a foot amputated. Slaves in the public services caught attempting to leave town were to be beaten. With the agreement of bishops, slaves who sought refuge in Christian churches were to be returned to their masters. 

Constantine did not abolish democracy, but introduced policies that made the Senate even more ineffective. Cities continued electing their officials but under him municipal governments declined. He revived the secret police, which was notorious for its reputation.

These changes were gradual. They destabilized the democratic system and inaugurated an era of despotism which ushered Europe into obscurantism that lasted over a millennium. The Church received governmental grants to build orphanages, hospitals, inns for travelers, and it founded old age homes, all of which helped increase Christianity’s prestige and popularity. Constantine was gullible and the priests used him to advance their cause. 1

Is Prince Charles being groomed to become the Constantine of Islam in England?

Prince Charles has come to America for an eight-day tour. His mission is to persuade W. Bush and the Americans of “the merits of Islam”. He has voiced private concerns over America’s “confrontational” approach to Muslim countries and its failure to appreciate “Islam’s strengths”. He thinks United States has been too intolerant of the religion. 

What is behind this interest in Islam? Why would the Prince of Wales become an ambassador of this Arabian religion? 

In a 1997 Middle East Quarterly article titled “Prince Charles of Arabia,” Ronni L. Gordon and David M. Stillman looked at evidence that Britain’s Prince Charles might be a secret convert to Islam.

This claim was put forward by no less a personage than the grand mufti of Cyprus: “Did you know that Prince Charles has converted to Islam. Yes, yes. He is a Muslim. I can’t say more. But it happened in Turkey. Oh, yes, he converted all right. When you get home check on how often he travels to Turkey. You’ll find that your future king is a Muslim.”

The Prince has not made any announcements about his conversion.  But he is no stranger to surprises. After all, didn’t he surprise everyone with his confession to adultery when he was still married to Princess Diana?

Charles has made several strong and disturbing public statements endorsing Islam “as the solution to the spiritual and cultural ills of Britain and the West”. When Ayatollah Khomeini issued the fatwa against Salman Rushdie for lampooning Muhammad in his novel Satanic Verses, rather than defend Rushdie’s right to free speech, Charles reacted to the death decree by reflecting on the positive features that Islam has to offer the spiritually empty lives of his countrymen.

His views on Islamic terrorism are similar to those expressed by the apologists of Islam. He believes that Islam has been hijacked by the extremists. In a major address on Islam on October 27, 1993, at the Sheldonian Theatre at Oxford where he is a vice patron of the Centre for Islamic Studies, Charles declared:

“Our judgment of Islam has been grossly distorted by taking the extremes to the norm. . . . For example, people in this country frequently argue that the Sharia law of the Islamic world is cruel, barbaric and unjust. Our newspapers, above all, love to peddle those unthinking prejudices. The truth is, of course, different and always more complex. My own understanding is that extremes, like the cutting off of hands, are rarely practiced. The guiding principle and spirit of Islamic law, taken straight from the Qur’an, should be those of equity and compassion.”

These are the words of an apologist of Islam. They are of course absurd. The Quran calls for cutting the hands of thieves 5.38 and those who wage war against Allah and his messenger 5.33 i.e. anyone who criticizes Islam. If Muslims rarely practice this law it is a credit to them. It shows they are more humane than their prophet. But Charles is defending ISLAM. He is claiming that the guiding principle and spirit of Islamic law is taken straight from the Quran. Cutting the hands is straight from the Quran. What spirit of the Quran is Charles advocating when he brushes under the carpet its clear mandate? Which part of the Quran teaches equity and compassion? No one expects kings to be intellectuals, but shouldn’t they be minimally intelligent?

Charles went as far as to suggest that European women may even find something to envy in the situation of their Muslim sisters:

He said: “Islamic countries like Turkey, Egypt and Syria gave women the vote as early as Europe did its women-and much earlier than in Switzerland! In those countries women have long enjoyed equal pay, and the opportunity to play a full working role in their societies.” 

This is typical Islamic propaganda. Muslims love to compare the worst of the West with the best of Islam and even take credit for what is anti Islamic. If at one stage these countries disregarded Islam, despite of it adopted secular laws and gave women some recognition, why should Islam be credited for that? Isn’t this a non sequitur logical fallacy? Doesn’t the Prince read the history of these nations to learn that women’s status there was gained because the secularists beat the Islamists?  Doesn’t he know that in 1920 the French defeated King Faysal in Syria and it was they who gave women voting power? Doesn’t he know that the emancipation of women in Egypt is owed to a secular reform called Egypt’s Liberal Experiment (1924-1936) that mimicked the European style of government?  Do I have to tell him that Ataturk’s reforms were not Islamic?  How can Islam give voting rights to women, when it does not recognizes democracy? All these reforms failed and all these countries now harbor terrorists. Islam cannot accept modernity. How can the future king of England make comments so uninformed?

Lambasting at the Western civilization and declaring Christianity as inadequate to the task of spiritual restoration, this future head of the Church of England, has declared that “Western civilization has become increasingly acquisitive and exploitive in defiance of our environmental responsibilities.” Instead, he praised the “Islamic revival” of the 1980s and portrayed Islam as Britain’s salvation: 

“Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is poorer for having lost. At the heart of Islam is its preservation of an integral view of the Universe. Islam-like Buddhism and Hinduism-refuses to separate man and nature, religion and science, mind and matter, and has preserved a metaphysical and unified view of ourselves and the world around us. . . . But the West gradually lost this integrated vision of the world with Copernicus and Descartes and the coming of the scientific revolution. A comprehensive philosophy of nature is no longer part of our everyday beliefs.”

It is disturbingly clear that Charles is disdainful of enlightenment and nostalgic of obscurantism. He concluded his speech by suggesting that “there are things for us to learn in this system of belief which I suggest we ignore at our peril.”

Like what? What is it exactly that Muslims have that if the Britons ignore it would be perilous to them? Is the Prince talking about stoning, hand chopping, beheading, public beating, polygamy, dictatorship, misogyny, marriage of little girls, honor killing, patriarchy, human rights abuses and all other ills that are directly inspired by the Quran? In what ways Islam is superior to the Western culture?  Apart from the fact that Islam treats humans like animals and punishes them for thinking independently, in what other ways it unifies man and nature?

If Charles is concerned about the decline of morality in England, shouldn’t he, as the “defender of the Faith” and the head of the Church of England revive Christian values of morality and to begin with, set better personal examples? Doesn’t Christianity prohibit adultery? [Mat.5:29] It is not that Christianity does not have moral and family values. If most Christians have abandoned those values, it is not the fault of Christianity. Why the Britons, or anyone for that matter, need to embrace a barbarian cult such as Islam to become moral when all they have to do is practice their own faith? It is foolish to believe that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and the alien is always superior to the familiar.

Becoming moral is a personal struggle. Whether you are a Muslim, a Christian or an atheist, it is YOU who must strive and become moral. Religions don’t give you a magic pill. If morality is what you want, why can’t you exert to become more moral by becoming a better Christian? Is Christianity against morality? Does Christianity separate Man from Nature? Why one has to embrace a dark faith such as Islam that resembles a cult of terror in order to become moral or discover his unity with nature? The only thing Islam has is FEAR. Islam frightens its followers with the imagery of a dreadful hell. Do we really need that stick to do the right thing and be moral?   

The Prince of Wales knows nothing about Islam. He is ignorant of the bloody history of this cult, its violence, its misogyny, its intolerance, its enmity with science, its antagonism towards intellectuals, its disdain for fine arts, its incompatibility with democracy, and knows nothing about the objectionable character of its founder.

Charles obviously does not subscribe to the draconian Islamic laws. He is relieved that the majority of Islamic countries do not practice Sharia and do not cut the hands of the thieves as prescribed in the Quran. He believes in the “reformed Islam”. Apart from the fact that reformed Islam is only a chimera, a lie created as window-dressing to fool the Westerners and all it means is “less Islam”, the question that begs an answer is: why decry Christianity, which is already reformed and support an alien belief system that cannot be reformed and in its pure state is so inhumane that even the Prince can’t stomach? 

Is the Prince tired of democracy? Does he secretly envy the Islamic system of government where the rulers have absolute power and can even impose morality on their subjects? Or is he completely misinformed? Where Charles gets all these erroneous concepts about Islam? 

Gordon and Stillman reveal that Charles has set up a panel of twelve “wise men” (in fact, eleven men and one woman) to advise him on Islamic religion and culture. The group was reported to have met in secret. Of course no comparable body exists to inform the crown prince about other faiths practiced in his future realm. Has Charles already fallen prey to Islam and is he now practicing kitman? (hide one’s belief) 

The news coming from the royalty is disconcerting. Gordon and Stillman say that Charles has taken steps to give Islam a special status. “Among the many titles borne by the British sovereign is ‘Defender of the Faith,’ a reference to the fact that the monarch heads not only the government but also the Church of England. But the prince has reservations about this title. In a June 1994 television documentary he declared his preference to be known as “Defender of Faith” rather than “Defender of the Faith,” leading to a rash of speculation that he favors the disestablishment of the Church of England.”

It appears that this council of “wise men” has already a plan of action for the future king of England to Islamize the country. Discussing the role of Islam in the United Kingdom, in a speech at the Foreign Office Conference Centre at Wilton Park in Sussex on December 13, 1996, Charles called on Islamic pedagogy and philosophy to help young Britons develop a “healthier view of the world”. Praising Islamic culture in its traditional form for trying to preserve an “integrated, spiritual view of the world in a way we have not seen fit to do in recent generations in the West,” he went on to say:

There is much we can learn from that Islamic world view in this respect. There are many ways in which mutual understanding and appreciation can be built. Perhaps, for instance, we could begin by having more Muslim teachers in British schools, or by encouraging exchanges of teachers. Everywhere in the world people want to learn English. But in the West, in turn, we need to be taught by Islamic teachers how to learn with our hearts, as well as our heads. 

According to the Prince, all that Muslims need to learn from the West is English, while the “spiritually bankrupt” Westerners are in dire need of learning Islamic philosophy and values.

What philosophy? What values? Tell me what Islam has that Christianity doesn’t and I will tell you a million things that the Western culture has that Islam doesn’t. First and foremost is freedom of thought and respect for human dignity. In the West people are people. In Islam they are slaves and like animals their thoughts do not count. If they dare to express a thought contrary to Islam, they will be executed.   

Why like all Muslims you compare the unbelieving decadent ‘Christians’ with the ‘ideal Islam’? Why don’t you compare Christians with Muslims, fundamentalist Christians with fundamentalist Muslims and Christianity with Islam? When you stop this logical fallacy of comparing apples to oranges, you will see that Christianity is a thousand time superior to Islam and Christians are a thousand time better than Muslims. Fundamentalist Christians are just nutcases. All you have to do is ignore them. Fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists. You can’t ignore them. And there is no comparison between Jesus and Muhammad. The former was a super saint, the latter was a thug.

While criticizing the Western civilization Charles added:

During the past three centuries, in the Western world at least, a dangerous division has occurred in the way we perceive the world around us. Science has tried to assume a monopoly ­ even a tyranny ­ over our understanding. Religion and science have become separated, so that now, as Wordsworth said, “Little we see in nature that is ours”. Science has attempted to take over the natural world from God; it has fragmented the cosmos and relegated the sacred to a separate and secondary compartment of our understanding, divorced from practical, day to day existence. 3

Science does not pretend to have answers to all human questions. Science has its own modus operandi and does not concern itself with things that are not verifiable through scientific means. It is not up to science to speculate on supernatural and spirituality. But science per se, is not tyrannical. Scientists may not agree with your views but they will never jail you, torture you or behead you for believing in what they regard scientific heresies. In the midst of the most scientific societies, you are allowed to believe in, and even preach, hocus-pocus and do not have to fear for your life. It is Islam that claims monopoly of the truth, jails its dissidents, tortures them and beheads them. What would befall to a Muslim scientist if he dares to say Jinns are fairytale, Muhammad did not split the moon and Mi’raj (the alleged ascension of Muhammad to heaven riding on a winged horsy) is ridiculous? 

What part of the Quran is scientific? This book is an insult to human intelligence. What has been the contribution of Islam to science? Nothing! Islam has been a hindrance to science. The few scientists who were born in Islamic countries and gave birth to what now Muslims claim to be “Islamic science”, were all apostates and unbelievers. Some of them, like Razi, ridiculed religions and called the prophets, “billy goats” and “charlatans”. The quartets of Khayyam, the great poet/mathematician, is full of ridicules of the Quran and its epistemology. Others, like Ibn Sina and Ibn Rushd were denounced as heretics and often were on the move to escape persecution. Whatever these scientists planted with their “heads” was nipped in the bud by true Muslims like Al Ghazali and Rumi who followed their “hearts”. Islam put an end to science and scientific quest. Rather than investigating the causes of the natural phenomena, everything was explained as the “will of God” and the researchers were mocked. What harmony of science and religion Charles sees in Islam? Why he does not enlighten us?   

As is to be expected, Charles has reached a hero status among Muslims.

CAIRO, June 21 (IslamOnline.net) – Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei will award Prince Charles, the heir to the British crown, an international prize for his contribution to understanding Islam in the West during a London ceremony on Thursday, June 24.

The Prince of Wales was unanimously chosen by an international jury set up by the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies (OCIS) for his earnest efforts to promote dialogue between the Islamic and Western civilizations, 4

John Casey of Cambridge University, warns that the British public lacks a clear understanding of Charles’s standing in the Muslim world:  

The extent to which the Prince is admired by Muslims-even to the point of hero-worship-has not yet sunk into the consciousness of the British public. When it does, that public may or may not be pleased.

As it is clear, Charles likes to think with his heart rather than with his head. Heart is for feelings. To find one’s way one must use his head. Impressionable people like Charles can easily be coned. He, obviously is being used by Muslims with whose help they hope to penetrate England and indoctrinate the Britons with Islam. Gordon and Stillman write: “At a private dinner with Prince Charles in May 1997, Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia announced a donation by King Fahd of $33 million to Oxford University to construct a new Centre for Islamic Studies at Oxford, a gift designed “to establish Islamic studies at the heart of the British education system.”

Centre for Islamic Studies is just a fancy name for madrassah. Thousands of mosques, madrassahs and Islamic centers have been sprouted all over UK. Islam is gradually penetrating in that country, destabilizing its democratic foundation and fomenting terrorism among its Muslim population. Muslims’ ‘generosity’ does not come with no-strings-attached. Wherever they invest their money, whether it is in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, UK or USA, the objective is to advance Islamic imperialism. Soon terrorism will follow and the country will become a war zone.

The Britons should know that the first allegiance of a Muslim is to Islam. Every Muslim, whether he is a pauper or a prince has the duty to advance the cause of Islam and make it dominant. 

 

  

Muslims, function as the fifth column, in favor of Islam, wherever they reside. The Britons must realize that Islam is not just another faith. Islam is a fascistic doctrine that uses religion to advance its political agenda. If the king of England has sympathies towards Islam, whether he is a convert or just a ‘useful idiot’, this should be a matter of concern to everyone. His sympathy to Islam will boost Islamic zealotry and will feed Islamic terrorism.  

With so much scandals oozing out of the House of Windsor, Charles flirting with Islam and his son Harry wearing a swastika armband, maybe it is time that the Britons see whether they really have any need for the archaic institution of monarchy. Apart from providing fodder for the tabloid industry what other useful function does monarchy have?

Instead of coming to America and lecturing to Americans about a faith of which he knows nothing but some lies and clichés that he has been told, I challenge the Prince of Wales to urge his panel of “wise men” to confront me and prove that my charges against Muhammad are false. Will he at least ask them to do that? If he really cares about the truth, this is the least he should do.

  

Is Prince Harry also a Muslim in closet?

 

This article should be read by the President of the United States before listening to Prince Charles’s charade about Islam. Please forward it to him, to the Secretary of State, to all the members of the Congress, to your governor and to your mayor. Send it  to your local newspaper and ask them to publish it. Don’t assume that truth will always win. This is a childish belief. It happens only in fairytales. History shows that only those who are determined win. If you are not determined the Isamists will win and mankind will lose.  

Permission is granted to publish this article  and I encourage you to promote it as much as you can until it reaches the Prince and millions of others who like him are fed with lies about Islam. Being a ‘useful idiot‘ is just as dangerous as being the enemy itself, or perhaps more.  

 

Related subject:

A letter to HRM Queen Elizabeth II 

Defender of the Faith

 


1- http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/ch24.htm

2- [Quoted in Giles Milton, The Riddle and the Knight: In Search of Sir John Mandeville (London: Allison & Busby, 1996), p. 78.]

3-  http://salam.muslimsonline.com/~ig/islam/abbas/prince.htm

4- http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-06/22/article03.shtml

Source of unspecified Quotes in this article is: Prince Charles of Arabia by Ronni L. Gordon and David M. Stillman  SEPTEMBER 1997 • VOLUME IV: NUMBER 3 http://www.meforum.org/article/356

 

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19 Comments on “Prince Charles convert of Islam?”

  1. Ed Says:

    I’ve heard a lot about Prince Charles and his various guises. There are some extremist conspiracy-type tales that he is the anti-Christ but it is important to recognise that these stories do not develop from nothing: there is a complex life to be examined here. With all that spare time not spent in traffic or feeding the kids or doing utter bullshit for fifteen hundred smackers a month, he doesn’t spend it sipping tea and watching paint dry; and considering his status – not only ‘legally’ but economically and politically and culturally throughout the world – no stone should be left unturned with this one.

    Let’s put it this way, if you were one of the richest and most revered men in the world what would you do with all your spare time? Knit socks? Watch pop idol? W#nk all day in the attic? What?

  2. LorMarie Says:

    Can’t say that I follow news regarding Prince Charles. But his comments sound like nothing more than an appeasement rather than sincerity.

  3. raghda ali Says:

    i dont know why you say that in muslims countries no one has a right to sppek his mind. i live in egypt and you can do anything you want and no can do anything to you and no one cuts hands in here its in saudi arabia only and honor killing is only done in egypt only in farms and north egypt where they are uneducated and know nothing about anythingg ok not in cities a muslim women here can divorce her husband. vote. work. dont wear a hijab. even to be a striper its her choice and no one say anything maybe there are some terrorists in egypt and muslims countries but they just do that to be famous and to get attention which they cant get so i dont know why u say there are no freedom in muslims world and a woman can do anything here .many muslims girls does wear the hijab many dont does that mean the girls who do dont have their freedom like who dont. its optional and house abuse is a crime in egypt and u get jailed for it . and the woman can file for divorce o before saying muslim countries have no rights and freedom do some researchs on each country cause not all the countries are the same.

  4. zizoo Says:

    This article is the stupidist thing i’ve ever read..

    i am not really interested in prince charles personal convictions. but it does interest me taht the writer obviously has no clue about Islam.
    First there are more than 1 billion muslims around th e world covering many countries and cultures.
    It is stupid to judge a religion and a billion peaceful people by looking at what taliban and al kaida maniacs do. these maniacs have no more to do w islam than you do mr. freak racist. i advise you to spend more time researching about the facts of life and of the world than to spend it following rumors and bullshitting about them . Freak..

  5. Hassler Says:

    The only thing to say is that the person who wrote this article is having something against Islam or that he didn’t know anything about Islam, its law and philosophy and disregarded history totally. The comments about the lack of Islamic morality was totally baseless and prejudice and might have been quoted from elsewhere. If one were to read the muslim’s scripture, one would have found that the principle and teaching of Islam are contrary to what the author has said. By depicting images of some poor folks with their hands chopped, and some murder, the author wished to portray Islam as brutal and violent. The truth was that such punishment was never found in the time of the Islamic prophet, due to the stringent conditions put forth by the scripture before a person can be found guilty of the said crime. First and only first the Islamic law requires the proper Islamic state to have totally eradicate poverty and raise the living standard of it’s citizen before any of the hudud law can be applied. Its citizen mush have achieved all the necessities. So by this condition alone, no country in this world now, claiming to be Islamic can impose any of the hudud law on its citizen. By looking at Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, to name a few, one cannot conclude that Islam is brutal and violent by the way the citizens are treated. What this countries have done totally violate the first condition of the sharia (law).

    Some details of the law:
    In Islam, theft is not as simple as stealing somebody’s property, the law imposed the burden on the prosecutor to prove beyond the shadow of doubt that the person accused is not poor, not in need, etc, etc.. The punishment for adultery in the scripture is by lashing. But again the scripture has put forth the rules that before a person can be found guilty of the crime, there must be four eyewitnesses that observed the intercourse (the male member (glans) must be clearly seen penetrating the female’s (disappear inside her body)). Now base on these guideline, one will surely see that it will be almost impossible for any one to be found guilty of such crime. The author didn’t mention about this fact. One wonder what was the author’s real intention?

    By the way, the article is titled: Prince Charles….. Maybe the author should also consider writing articles concerning the conversion to Islam of these people:

    Michael Jackson
    Cat Steven
    Prof. Keith L. Moore
    etc etc etc

  6. Miles Says:

    This author is clearly an idiot. He writes “Quran calls for cutting hands of thieves and those who wage war against Allah and his messenger, I.E. ANYONE WHO CRITICIZES ISLAM”!!! Since whem criticizing someone means waging war agains? You gotta be an idiot to make that conclusion, I am sorry.

  7. mahmou kamel Says:

    you do not know any thing about islam
    read more about it from books of muslims
    not from westren books
    catch the chance
    and know the truth

  8. Aliyyah Says:

    The writer of the article is ironically trying to convince the uninformed readers, because every well informed person will find out by himself how ridiculous and superficial the ideas and argument of the “writer” are, that Islam is barbarian and anti-science etc… I am a Muslim girl and I live in a Muslim country and I thank God for being born here not anywhere else. Here Muslims are happy though averagely poor they have the spiritual peace stemming from their deep faith. we are here in Syria a mixture or a fusion of different religions and sects who are respecting each other and protecting each other. Holy Quran demands every Muslim should respect and maintain the religious freedom of non-Muslims. Islam has never been draconian nor is barbarian, Islam the religion of humanity and equity. Christianity and Islam are heavenly religions and the principles they call for are one and the same in essence but the development of human life and needs made it necessary for humanity to have a new religion that complement not supersede Christianity, which is Islam. When Quran order the Muslims to cut the hand of the thief there are very strict conditions to be fulfilled before the cutting takes place. These conditions make this verdict very difficult to be carried out and give it a deterrent value or perspective. The thief should be rich and the object stolen should be kept in a safe place or where such a thing is usually kept in and it should be of a certain value. Of course you would not be punished if you steal a loaf of bread to survive or to feed your hungry children or if stole a gold coin laid on the floor or in the street. Women in Islam have their rights in full. They can have properties, vote, inherit, choose their husbands, ask for divorce and veil or not veil. Do have in Britain a woman who can ask her husband to give her money for nursing their child from her breast? To buy for her her personal things and stuff from his money? It is a must in Islam that you provide for your wife because simply she does not have to work though has the right to. What do you do with your unable parents in Britain send them to asylums? In Islam as Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) says (heaven is under the mothers’ feet)Which means their satisfaction with their children guarantees heaven for them(the children) This is just a very very tiny stream of the great river of Islamic virtues and traits. If you want to criticize your prince for his open-mindedness, don’t defame Islam. You should liberate your mind and get rid of all the stereotypes you have about Islam and Muslims, then, you can understand Christianity first and Islam second more deeply and without any prejudice

  9. Hanane Says:

    Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds, and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

    The condition of women in the world before Islam was very bad. Women were treated like slaves or property, their personal consent concerning anything related to their well being was considered unimportant. Women were used for one purpose, and then discarded. They had no independence, could own no property and were not allowed to inherit. Simply put, their condition was unspeakable.
    Islam gave the right for women and made them equal to men. Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Women are the second half of men”. Islam considers a woman to be equal to a man as a human being and as his partner in this life, and raised her condition very much. The condition of women in western culture-most times-is not better. They try always to use women for only one purpose, to enjoy with her body, so they convince her to show her body and expose it to all people. But see what Almighty Allah Says about the relation between manand woman. Woman is place of relax for man, love and affection are the base of their relations. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning) “And among His Signs is this that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect.” Allah (S.W.T) stated the coitus condition, he said: “They are (like) garments for you and you are (like) garments for them”. Some people defame Islam and say that Islam does not honor the woman. They misunderstood the Prophet’s (Blessings and Peace of Allah be upon him) saying: “O! Women folk! You should give charity and be diligent in seeking Allah’s forgiveness, In spite of your lacking in wisdom and failing in religion, you are depriving the wisest of men of their intelligence”. Upon this a woman asked: “What is the deficiency in our wisdom and in our religion? He replied, “Your lack of wisdom can be well judged from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to that of a man. You do not offer Salah (prayer) for some days and you do not fast (during menstruation period), it is a deficiency in religion”. In this narration, certain weaknesses of the female sex have been pointed out, which are natural to the woman’s biology, psychology, and embryology. According to biologists, during and before menstruation, a female’s thought process is affected, her pulse and blood pressure are also altered. Females are also more prone to hysteria, Dr. ROVAREEN wrote in encyclopeida: “The power of a muscle of a woman is one third weaker than that of a man. The heart of a woman is small and weak compared to the man’s heart. Every woman’s heart is 60 grams smaller than an average man’s heart. Besides this, the grasping power of a man is more than that of a woman. You should know that when the Quran distinguishes between the witness of a male and female, it does not mean that there is a general rule in the Islam in witnessing, whereby a female is worth half a male. This condition is made only to ensure the fineness of witness as Islam also stipulates men to provide four witnesses in the case of adultery and accusations. Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): “You must call four witnesses on them”. Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): “And those who accuse chaste women, and produce not four witnesses, flog them with eighty stripes, and reject their testimony forever, they indeed are the Fasiqun (liars, rebellious, disobedient to Allah). The purpose is to ensure the accuracy of incident. There is no discrimination between men and women. There is no dishonoring of women in HADITH. But ther is astonishment in Hadith how the women overcome men? Although they are weaker than men. There are many fields in which Allah made the witness of a woman alone is enough in issues like menses, birth, women defects, suckling and other matters, men can not know it. Allah put off the prayers and fast from the woman during her menstrual period. This concession is actually a sign of blessing and mercy of Allah on woman because she faces many biological changes in this period. We seek Allah’s help, blessing, mercy and His protection. Allah knows best.

  10. Hanane Says:

    Now let me make clear why hands of thieves should be cut
    first of all Because cutting off the hand is a serious matter, it should not be done for just any case of theft. A combination of conditions must be fulfilled before the hand of a thief is cut off. These conditions are as follows:

    1- The thing should have been taken by stealth; if it was not taken by stealth, then the hand should not be cut off, such as when property has been seized by force in front of other people, because in this case the owner of the property could have asked for help to stop the thief.

    2- The stolen property should be something of worth, because that which is of no worth has no sanctity, such as musical instruments, wine and pigs.

    2- The value of the stolen property should be above a certain limit, which is three Islamic Dirhams or a quarter of an Islamic Dinar, or their equivalent in other currencies.

    3- The stolen property should have been taken from a place where it had been put away, i.e., a place where people usually put their property, such as a cupboard, for example.

    4- The theft itself has to be proven, either by the testimony of two qualified witnesses or by the confession of the thief twice.

    5- The person from whom the property was stolen has to ask for it back; if he does not, then (the thief’s) hand does not have to be cut off.

    If these conditions are fulfilled, then the hand must be cut off. If this ruling was applied in the societies which are content with man-made laws and which have cast aside the Sharee’ah of Allaah and replaced it with human laws, this would be the most beneficial treatment for this phenomenon. But the matter is as Allaah Says (what means):

    “Then is it the judgement of [the time of] ignorance they desire? But who is better than Allaah in judgement for a people who are certain [in faith].” [Quran 5:50]

  11. Hanane Says:

    Here are some hadith said by the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him

    Theft is Haraam (forbidden) according to the Quran, Sunnah [sayings of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) ] and Ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus). Allaah, the Most Exalted, has condemned this action and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The Hadd [i.e. the legal punishment prescribed by the Sharee'ah (Islamic law)] for a thief is to cut off the thief’s hand. Allaah Almighty Says in the Noble Quran (what means):

    “[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they earned [i.e. committed] as a deterrent [punishment] from Allaah. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” [Quran 5:38]

    The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:

    “The hand (of the thief) should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a Dinar or more.” [Al-Bukhaari]

    The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed the thief because he is a corrupt element in society, and if he is left unpunished, his corruption will spread and infect the body of the Ummah (Muslim community). He sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:

    “May Allaah curse the thief who steals an egg and has his hand cut off, or steals a rope and has his hand cut off.” [Al-Bukhaari]

    What indicates that this ruling is definitive is the fact that a Makhzoomi noblewoman (from the tribe of Makhzoom) stole at the time of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) and Usaamah Ibn Zayd may Allaah be pleased with him wanted to intercede for her. The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) became angry and said:

    “Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allaah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allaah, if Faatimah Bint (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” [Al-Bukhaari]

  12. Hanane Says:

    I am ready to post more clarification about this subject

    • Scott Says:

      I was reading your reply to this fear-mongering propaganda and I thought to my self Ma’sha’allah for this intelligent, well thought out sister. It’s brave, fearless sister’s like you that keep us brother’s optimistic! You shut that article writer down, with truth and fact’s.
      Thank you for putting a smile on a brother’s face. Aslama
      P.S Judging by the times of your posts, you type fast too! Your just awesome ;)
      Peace be upon you

      • extremepress Says:

        Haven’t been posting any blog entries lately but good to see typical frothing at the mouth Islamic responses to this article…

        Such a self absorbed religion – only one god and if you disagree with this one god you will burn in hell and torment.

        Such a bullshit religion, tired og trying to make excuses for this religion – they are beyond hope.

        Well I laugh at Allah and that prophet of yours….go on slavishly imitating others how will you ever know yourself is you are a slave to some decrepit false prophet from hundreds of years ago.
        FOOLS

  13. Aliyyah Says:

    Thank u sister/brother Hanane. I wish I had plenty of time to clarify the misunderstood idea or issue of polygyny in Islam I mean the cases and conditions pertain to the validity or possibility of applying of this law which is not haphazard nor capricious. So I wish you make some explanation and clarification concerning polygyny in islamic law”Shariah”

  14. Richard Says:

    Britain will regret every foolish step she takes.there is fear for the future of Britain and the innocent minds in that country a she races toward apostasy.

  15. a.fatir Says:

    Wow you wrote something.First sir with due respect please before you say anything about anything learn about it first and then write or talk about it.You know nothing about Islam you have just got this information from people who hate Islam.Muslims are not slaves or animals,we are free to do anything we want.The hand cutting is only done in Saudia Arab only to those who has done something really bad.My advice to you sir is first research on Islam from real sources and talk to Muslims and they will tell you what Islam really is.Most of the terrorists are not Muslims come to the places where attacks happens and see there faces and research on it please.May you find the right path.

  16. ossified for reason Says:

    As per usual, it would appear, none of the criticisms of the article take place on analytic or even marginally logical grounds. I would be lying if I said I agreed with the author, but I think the fact that no one can categorically refute the systemic arguments of the piece demonstrate the credibility inherent to many of them. The article is fear mongering yes. However, the universal condemnation of “ignorance” or laughably “racism” expresses nothing but ones lack of a capacity to construct a decent insult. Why? Because calling someone names without supporting the criticism, with anything short of a nebulous statement of generalized rhetoric propagated from partisan zealotry, is just insult throwing. Equally a universal apolegism for islam manifest in a this regard by “What this countries have done totally violate the first condition of the sharia (law).”, is hopelessly baseless. Assuming Islam to be invariably correct and without the prerequisite of empirical proof establishes a paradigm of purely subjective and absolute logic. I’m sure there are a variety of people in underdeveloped muslim countries who believe the state is exercising Islam perfectly. Who are you to tell them they are not? Or is Islam dependent on your perspectives? Honestly I could go on all day, but have neither the time or inclination. I can but hope that the senseless logic of Islamic apologists, whether sincere or not, is never understood to be a replacement for actual rationality, as I would equally hope for the baseless proponents of Christianity or any other religion. Simultaneously, I hope the blind followers of a murderous, rapist, militant glutton (all things Islam’s “holy texts” and respective satellite literature also imply muhammed to be), grow a brain cell. Or rather are subject to a societal mentality shift which sheep such as yourselves are visibly so susceptible to, which results in blind adherence to an ideology which is at least not as incongruent as Islam.

  17. extremepress Says:

    Hi A.Fatir,

    I understand that most Muslims are not terrorists. Most people understand that.

    As to Mohammed:

    How can a person know themselves if they blindly follow another.

    It is the slavish devotion to the word of one prophet that I think is the problem. Also, most Muslims don’t even know the true history of their own religion. Not surprising really since imams and prophets over the milenia have been hiding the roots of the religion from the masses.

    Is the same with Christianity also. Though in Christianity there is no violent call to arms in the modern day compared to that of Islam.


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